RelSt 735 Historiography eMail Archive (Spring 2007)
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:26:32 -0500
Subject: Jewish Christianity query
For some backgrounding in the "Jewish Christianity" discussions, see my old review article of Danielou's Theology of Jewish Christianity, now at
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/journals/kraftpub/Christianity/danielou-art.html
Also the first appendix to Bauer, by Strecker (heavy going at points), "On the Problem of Jewish Christianity"
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/rs/rak/publics/new/BAUERAP1.htm
A very complicated subject, where assumptions and definitions -- and lack of direct evidence -- make the going even tougher.
Forwarded message:
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:04:20 -0500
> Subject: Jewish Christianity
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> With a view to gaining an introductory, usable frame of reference for some of the discussions
> on Jewish Christianity we've been having, could you point me in the direction of any relatively
> accessible intros / primers to some of this material -- or, perhaps, an article or 2 that might
> get me into some of the issues in a preliminary way?
>
> Michael:
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:39:27 -0500
Subject: Class this week [Gaius Caligula]
As a focus for class tomorrow (today!), let's consider the treatment of Gaius/Caius (Caligula) in the various sources now listed on the class page (Philo, Josephus, Suetonius). All sources are unsympathetic, which shapes their accounts in various directions.
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Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:46:31 -0500
Subject: Today! [Sparta correspondence]
For today's class, we will look at a couple of sample passages from Josephus' treatment of Kings/Chronicles material, and from 1 Maccabees, at least. You can find them in the file now mislabeled "josephusAnt1-4.html" which is linked from the temporary class page:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/courses/rels/735/josephusAnt1-4.html
An interesting aspect of the Kings/Chronicles example is the quotation from Eusebius, who attributes the reference to the earthquake under Uzziah (see also Amos 1.1-2 and Zech 14.5) to Josephus' knowledge of Jewish "deuteroseis" (literally "repetitions," perhaps referring to what became rabbinic lore).
What was especially interesting to me about the 1 Macc materials is Josephus' treatment of the exchange of letters with Sparta, found in 1 Macc 12. Josephus tells of the second letter in an entirely different context (Ant 12.{4.10.}223ff) and seems to have a significantly different text. When he gets to the first letter (Ant 13.166ff), he also seems to have a fuller and different text, leading to the hypothesis that for that exchange (and probably for other letters that Josephus records), he had another source (a dossier of letters pertaining to Jewish political relationships?).
I apologize to the non-Greeks in class for the fact that I haven't yet added English to the main comparison of this Sparta correspondence. The Greeks might find it helpful in underlining the differences:
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/courses/rels/735/jos-spartans.html
I will point out that the "extra" introductory material found in Josephus' version of the initial letter (Ant 13.163ff // 1 Macc 12.1ff) is virtually identical to formulas attested in papyri letters from the Ptolemaic period. We can also brainstorm about what "square" or "fourfold" might mean in Josephus' version of the second letter (Ant 12.227 // 1 Macc 12.19ff).
And if time permits, we will move ahead to some of the parallels between Antiquities and War -- materials still in process here!
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 17:48:34 -0500
Subject: Jewish Christianity Lecture Monday at Penn
This will be of interest to some of you. It will be held in the "Class of 55"
room on the 2nd floor of the Van Pelt Library, at 5 pm Monday (12 Feb 2007),
University of Pennsylvania. Welcome one and all.
> "Jewish Christianity" as Counter-history?
> Eusebius, the Pseudo-Clementines, and the Place of Judaism in Christian
> History
>
> Annette Yoshiko Reed (McMaster University)
>
> What is the place of Judaism in Christian history? For the fourth-century
> historian Eusebius, this question could be answered in terms of a clear-cut
> contrast: the first century CE saw the decline of the Jewish people,
> concurrent with the rise of Christianity and its rapid spread throughout the
> Roman Empire. While a series of revolts catalyzed the increased isolation of
> the Jews, the apostles spread Christianity to Gentiles throughout the
> Empire. Even though Jesus and his first followers were Jews, the Jewish
> mission failed, and so-called "Jewish Christians" remained clustered in
> Jerusalem. When the revolts forced them to flee Judaea, the centre of
> Christianity shifted from the holy city of the Jews to the heart of the
> Roman Empire. Thereafter, Christ-believers of Jewish ethnicity played no
> role in the "mainstream" history of the church. Those who clung to "Jewish
> Christianity" became relics of a lost age, rendered "heretical" by the
> church's "Parting of the Ways" with Judaism.
>
> This meta-narrative has long been echoed in modern scholarship. For decades,
> scholars of early Christianity have been interrogating Eusebius' views of
> "orthodoxy," "heresy," and "paganism." Studies have increasingly pointed to
> the rhetorical, discursive, and apologetic features of his Ecclesiastical
> History. Nevertheless, in the field of Patristics, the Eusebian
> meta-narrative still shapes approaches to Judaism and "Jewish Christianity."
> For the most part, both are assumed to be irrelevant for our understanding
> of the history of the church after the first century.
>
> This paper will propose a different approach to Eusebius, "Jewish
> Christianity," and the late antique discourse about Judaism and Christian
> history. I will compare Eusebius' Ecclesiastical History with the
> Pseudo-Clementine Homilies, a fourth-century Syrian novel that is widely
> acknowledged as a rare first-hand source for "Jewish Christianity." Past
> research on the Homilies proceeded from Eusebius' account of the decline of
> "Jewish Christianity," and this late antique text was thus read mainly as a
> mine for earlier sources. In my view, however, it may not be coincidental
> that "Jewish Christian" sources are being collected, redacted, and reworked
> in the fourth century, concurrent with Eusebius' attempts to deny the
> continued place of Judaism in church history and Christian identity.
>
> Like Eusebius, the authors/redactors of the Homilies draw selectively on
> earlier source materials to remodel the apostolic past in the image of their
> own particular vision of "orthodoxy." In stark contrast, however, they
> retell the story of apostolic history as an affirmation of the radical
> continuity between Judaism and Christianity -- going so far, in fact, to
> resist any distinction between them. This evidence may help to open the way
> for a richer understanding of the late antique construction of "orthodoxy,"
> the contestation over the Christian past, and the history of
> Jewish/Christian relations.
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007
16:49:14 -0500
Subject: Steve Mason on Josephus
I've had a couple of interesting and productive email exchanges with
Steve Mason, which I'll excerpt below. If any of you are interested in
seeing his pre-publication papers, let me know.
Mason email #1:
That's a great syllabus -- thanks for letting me see it. A couple of
things occurred to me as a I read it.
First, the Josephus Bibliography Project at Muenster has been taken
over into the PACE. We have considerably extended it and integrated
into the text of Josephus (so that you can find biblio from the
appropriate tab in situ). Muenster had to stop development in about
2001/2, when their developer passed away -- took his own life, very
sadly. Afterwards, coincidentally, their funding disappeared. They
(Folker Siegert) graciously gave us the database, which we reformatted
for the dynamic use described above and updated with several hundred
items -- also adding many abstracts. Further, it is constantly being
'grown' by members. If your students wish to join PACE, they can
contribute entries by means of forms, which then become part of the
database, accessible from either the biblio module or the
text/commentary window.
Second, I wondered whether you knew Sabrina Inowlocki's work --
dissertation on Josephus and other Graeco-Jewish writers in Eusebius.
She's now published the Oxford MLitt and Brussels PhD together, it
seems, in: Eusebius and the Jewish authors : his citation technique in
an apologetic context (Brill 2006). But you must know her already.
FInally, I have some recent things that might be of interest to you on
the subject, whether they would be to the seminar or not I don't know.
One is the long version of my own talk in the Toronto seminar where you
will speak...: 'Josephus as Authority for First-Century Judaea.' It
briefly discusses Eusebius on Josephus. The other (Contradiction or
Counterpoint?) is from the Review of Rabb. Judaism 2003. Maybe they
aren't useful, but the Authority paper at least seems close to your
themes.
Mason email #2
It occurred to me that, although your students are grad students,
a paper I wrote for upper undergrads at Bard College, precisely on
Josephus and historiography, might be useful. There is some overlap
with the Authority paper, especially in the example of Pilate, but
that's more developed here in connection with historical method. It's
not heavily documented because it was for oral presentation, but the
whole may be more user friendly than the others. In case it's of use,
PS: It's already out in a book edited by J Neusner et al, Historical Knowledge in Biblical Antiquity (Deo Publishing 2006).
End of Mason emails.
I've read the Bard paper, and it is an excellent survey of the subject
of Josephus as historian, in a historiographical context
(although it has little to say about the Antiquities, interestingly
enough). Steve doesn't want me to put it on a puplic web site (like the
course page), but I can bounce it (and the other papers as well) to you
individually.
Meanwhile, I'm gradually working on the file, now linked to the
temporary class page at
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/courses/rels/735/historiography.html
with the comparison of Ant 1 to our surviving Pentateuch. Passages in
red are what I don't find in our Pentateuchal texts. If any of you want
to help with this project, please say so. There is lots that can be
done, and it is very revealing with respect to Josephus' procedures,
interests, and/or sources.
More to come (undoubtedly!)
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007
00:13:55 -0500
Subject: Keeping up with Scholarship
In the Logan Lounge, near the exit hallway to the stairs, are many
copies of the Abstracts from the 2006 Annual Meeting of the American
Philological Association, being given away as extras by the APA office.
This book consists of 349 one-page abstracts of various presentations,
and is thus quite daunting overall. I took some time tonight (relaxing
after class?) to thumb through it, to glimpse what is going on in "classical studies" scholarly circles. There is no index of topics, or
even a listing of titles. Most of the abstracts deal, understandably,
with typical "classics" topics of various sorts, but the following
caught my attention as more directly relevant to my own work. I present
them here, with page numbers, in case any of you want to take advantage
of this opportunity.
009 Epitomes and the Epitome of Jason of Cyrene [2 Macc], Rosalind
Maclachlan
033 The Invention of Early Christian Sacred Space? Ann Marie Yasin
034 Pagans, Christians, and the Domus Aeterna [burial practices],
Stephanie Smith
036 Sociologies of Religion in 4th and 5th century Rome, Kimberly Bowes
053 [on sigla in "actors' papyri"], George Adam Kovacs
054 "Actors' Papyri" and Rhetorical Schools, Sebastiana Nervegna
082 Roman Coins and their 'Audience' [Trajan's buildings], Annalisa
Marzano
099 The Derveni Papyrus in the Homeric Scholia, Dirk Obbink
100 [similar title], Richard Janko
116 Out of the Ashes and the Herculaneum Papyrus Project, Roger
MacFarlane
131 Halley's Comet and the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, John
Ramsey
132 Gentem Iudaeorum domuit: The Inscription from the Lost Arch of
Titus, Tommaso Leoni
138-141 [on the Thesaurus Linguae Latinae Project] Michael Hillen et al.
174 Invisibility Spells in the Magical Papyri, Richard Phillips
219 Ostraka from the Athenian Agora, James Sickinger
239 Messages from Beyond the Grave in Greco-Roman Funerary
Inscriptions, Gil Renberg
292 How to Hymn a Chthonic God? Mary Depew
296-298 [on Unicode], Maria Pantelia, et al.
303 How to Abuse a Late-Antique Emperor, Richard Flower
305 Chrysostom's Rhetoric of Mania and its Perils, Paul Kimball
306 Paterfamilias or Priest? Religious Authority and the Domus,
Kristina Sessa
322 Greek formularies and amulets containing Christian motifs, Theodore
De Bruyn
323 Greek, Egyptian and Biblical traditions in the Cambyses Romance,
Philip Venticinque
324 Hymns as acclamations: Ambrose of Milan, Michael Stuart Williams
326 The Daimones of C. S. Lewis, David H. Sick
Now to get back to what I ought to be doing (dissertation drafts,
research reports, etc.)!
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007
13:46:40 -0500
Subject: Web Page Problem!
There is a temporary (we hope) web page problem -- the new RelSt page
has hijacked all rs listings, including mine.
As a work around, you can get to the class web page at
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/gopher/other/journals/kraftpub/historiography.html
Sorry for the problem (not of my doing)!
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007
16:00:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Antiquities and Jewish traditions
Doug,
[Because this topic may be of general interest, I'll send this reply to
the entire list, with the understanding that if you choose it as a
report topic, it is reserved for you.]
Doug wrote: