Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.answers,news.answers Path: aurora.LaTech.edu!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!pipex!zaphod.crihan.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!ghost.dsi.unimi.it!ghost.dsi.unimi.it!serini From: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini) Subject: Elm Mail User Agent FAQ - monthly posting Followup-To: poster Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Sender: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Piero Serini) Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 00:27:46 GMT Message-ID: <1993Mar19.002746.27409@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> Summary: This posting contains a list of Frequently Asked Questions (and their answers) about the Elm Mail User Agent. It should be read by anyone who wishes to post to the comp.mail.elm newsgroup. Expires: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 00:00:00 GMT Reply-To: Elm-FAQ@ghost.dsi.unimi.it Lines: 750 Xref: aurora.LaTech.edu comp.mail.elm:9643 comp.answers:289 news.answers:6750 Archive-name: elm/FAQ Last-modified: 1992/3/15 Version: 1.0 Frequently Asked Questions Elm 2.4 [21] Piero Serini serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it piero@strider.st.dsi.unimi.it Last Update: 15 Mar 93 This FAQ's version: 1.0 This is an unofficial Frequently Asked Questions (with answers) list about Elm. Syd Weinstein kindly checked this, but he is not responsible for the errors in the answers, which are my fault, unless otherwise specified. I do NOT claim to be a member of the Elm Development Group. 0.0 Organization As this is the first time I write a FAQ list, I copied the organization from the 386BSD FAQ by Terry Lambert, and I slightly modified it to suit Elm needs. Thank you, Terry. This FAQ is posted monthly, the 15th, on news.answers, comp.answers and comp.mail.elm. It is available by anonymous ftp from ghost.dsi.unimi.it [149.132.2.1]: ~ftp/pub. It is also available upon mail request. This FAQ is NOT reposted if modified, until the next issue date. I will modify the ftp file only. I suggest using ftp to get the latest version of this document. This FAQ refers to latest patchlevel I put my hands on. Questions about a specific patchlevel are kept if of common interest. This FAQ consists of three parts: 0.* Organization. 1.* Reserved for future use. 2.* Questions list (with accompanying answers). 3.* Bugs list. 4.* Archivers, what they archive, how to download. 1.0 Reserved for future use 2.0 Questions list Here is an (incomplete) questions list, followed by an (incomplete) answers part. Please, mail me any comment, suggestion, correction to any of the addresses above, with Subject: Elm-FAQ Answers are from the "Elm montly posting" or from comp.mail.elm and proper credit is given before each answer. Numbering has been added to the questions list to aid in finding things. 2.01 What is Elm? 2.02 Which is Elm current version? 2.03 Where can I find the distribution? 2.04 Where do I get the "Elm Reference Guide" and the other docs ? 2.05 How to get frm(1L) to only show new mail? 2.06 My incoming mailbox isn't /usr/mail/: 2.07 How do I save a message without deleting it? 2.08 How do I append a .signature? 2.09 Why do I get the remote signature on replies to local mail? 2.10 How can I get elm to NOT expand the alias list on outgoing msgs? 2.11 How does one mark a message as urgent? 2.12 How can I get a line like "Quoting foo:" before a replied-to mail? 2.13 When I receive uudecoded files, can I tag files in the order 2.14 Is there any way to bounce all the tagged messages, i.e. 2.15 Does ELM have MIME (metamail) support? 2.16 How not to include headers in outward bound mail? 2.17 Is it possible to save mail messages without the headers? 2.18 How do I upgrade my ELM aliases from 2.3 to 2.4PL21 ? 2.19 Elm seems to ignore HOME environment variable. Why? 2.20 Sometimes Elm (PL < 21) seems to join two messages in one. Why? 2.21 On SCO Xenix, all mail is from user anonymous. Why? 2.22 Elm doesn't work on Next. Why? 2.23 Compiling with Microsoft UNIX C Compilers won't work. Why? 2.24 Various problems on Unix 286. 2.25 Configure won't run on HP-UX. Why? 2.26 Configure won't run on SCO XENIX 2.2.1. Why? 2.27 Will Elm work on SGI Indigo? 2.28 I have problems compiling elm2.4 on HP/Apollo 2.29 I have problems compiling elm2.4 on IBM AIX 2.30 Elm sends 'empty mail' on 386BSD: why? 2.31 Why can't I get SGI to work for non ROOT? 2.32 I have problems p)rinting messages in 2.4PL20 2.33 Elm2.4 PL20 - 'x' key causes segmentation violation 2.34 readmsg:illegal option -- I. Why? 2.35 Forms don't work. Why? 2.36 ELM does not recognize VMS mail. Why? 2.37 Huge headers cause Memory Fault. Why? 2.38 Can I use elm for posting and replying to news? 2.39 Is there an Elm for DOS? If yes, where? 2.01 What is Elm? From Elm documentation: Currently on Unix, there seems to be a preponderence of line-oriented software. This is most unfortunate as most of the software on Unix tends to be pretty darn hard to use! I believe that there is more than a slight correlation between the two, and, since I was myself having problems using "mailx" with high-volume mail, I created a new mail system. In the lingo of the mail guru, Elm is a "User Agent" system, it's designed to run with "sendmail" or "/bin/rmail" or any other UNIX Mail Transport Agent (according to what's on your system) and is a full replacement of programs like "/bin/mail" and "mailx". The system is more than just a single program, however, and includes programs like "frm" to list a 'table of contents' of your mail, "printmail" to quickly paginate mail files (to allow 'clean' printouts), and "autoreply", a system- wide daemon that can autoanswer mail for people while they're on vacation without having multiple copies spawned on the system. 2.02 Which is Elm current version? Elm current version is 2.4 PatchLevel (PL) 21. 2.03 Where can I find the distribution? There's a list of sites distributing Elm at the bottom of this file (4.* Archivers, what they archive, how to download.). In addition, new releases will be posted to comp.sources.unix, patches will be posted to comp.sources.bugs. After patches have been proven and out for a while, they will be posted to comp.sources.unix. 2.04 Where do I get the "Elm Reference Guide" and the other docs ? From the monthly posting: Elm has several documents (over 100 pages worth of doc) that were written to help users install, support and use Elm. These are in the doc directory of the source distribution. Contact your systems administrator for a copy of the documents. For those sites that do not have troff (either di-troff or o-troff) and do have postscript printers, dsinc (dsinc.dsi.com) has a copy of the docs already in postscript format available for anonymous uucp or ftp. 2.05 How to get frm(1L) to only show new mail? * Alan Thew (alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk): Try the fromwho program which IMHO is better tham frm and allows you to type "fromwho -n" to show who has sent you new mail amd what the subject line is. Availabe from comp.sources.unix archives and needs an ANSI C compiler (but will build on Suns with "unproto" software). * Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Better answer: use nfrm, it will only show new mail. nfrm is a link to frm. There are other command line options to show various restrictions see the frm(1) manual page. possible status limitations are new, unread and old or any combination of these. typing frm -h yields: frm -- list from and subject lines of messages in mailbox or folder Usage: frm [-n] [-v] [-s {new|old|read}] [filename | username] ... option summary: -h print this help message. -n display the message number of each message printed. -Q very quiet -- no output is produced. This option allows shell scripts to check frm's return status without having output. -q quiet -- only print summaries for each mailbox or folder. -S summarize the number of messages in each mailbox or folder. -s status only select messages with the specified status. 'status' is one of "new", "old", "unread" (same as "old"), or "read". The first letter need only be specified. -v print a verbose header. 2.06 My incoming mailbox isn't /usr/mail/: how do I get ELM to read the correct mailbox? Elm uses the MAIL environment variable to read the correct mailbox. 2.07 How do I save a message without deleting it? C)opy it instead of s)aving. 2.08 How do I append a .signature? Jeff Zabek (jeff@titan.ucs.umass.edu) and the Elm documentation: Create a file called .signature. Then in the .elm/elmrc file, find the following two lines: # local ".signature" file to append to appropriate messages... localsignature = .signature ^^^^^^^^^^ # remote ".signature" file to append to appropriate messages... remotesignature = .signature ^^^^^^^^^^ The parts marked by ^^^^^ are what you have to add in. This can be any text file, but usually signatures are 4 lines or less. 2.09 Why do I get the remote signature on replies to local mail? From the monthly posting: In Elm 2.4, any address with an ! or @ in it is considered remote, without those characters, its local. Any reply is qualified to prevent alias expansion. If you had an alias in your private Elm aliases that matched the name of a user on your system, but that alias did not point to that user, there would be no way to reply to the message. It would end up going to the alias name, not the user that mailed you. To prevent this, Elm fully qualifies (adds the site name) to a reply address. This makes the simplistic signature detector think that the message is 'remote'. This is not slated to change until 3.0. 2.10 How can I get elm to NOT expand the alias list on outgoing msgs? From the monthly posting: Problem is if a list has, say, 100 names in it then sending to the list expands every single one of the 100 names. I would like the message to have the "To" line = the name of the list itself and have the actual recipients' names not appear. You can't and don't want to. (and yet you can also) An alias is a mechanism of making Elm address a message to multiple people. However, when the message gets to its destination, Elm also has to allow that person do a group reply. If the message only has your local private elm alias in it, the group reply will try and go to that alias name. Unfortunately, that name is meaningless to that other person (its private to both Elm and you). There are two solutions: The preferred if replies are desired: Have your mail administrator create a file include alias for you in your MTA (sendmail, et al).. This is usually of the type alias :include:/some/path/to/a/file where the file would be in a place you control and you have write access to the file. Then you can add/drop members of the list, and the mail just goes to the alias, and, someone sending to alias@your.system will be able to send to all members. (group reply works correctly) The less preferred method: (no group reply is possible) Send the message to yourself, with a bcc to the Elm alias. Of course, the Bcc: won't be expanded by the MTA internal to the message, so it won't appear in the message. 2.11 How does one mark a message as urgent? David W. Tamkin (dattier@genesis.MCS.COM): Having an Action: header sets the recipient's A flag (if the recipient uses Elm); in 2.3 have a Priority: header set the U flag no matter what it said (even "Priority: none" or "junk" or "low"). In 2.4 there are certain precoded Priority: values that do not turn on the U flag [Can anyone supply a list?], but anything else will. 2.12 How can I get a line like "Quoting foo:" before a replied-to mail? Joshua A. Laff (laff@cs.uiuc.edu): from $HOME/.elm/elmrc: # attribution string for replies ('%s' is the author of original # message) attribution = In our previous episode, %s said: 2.13 When I receive uudecoded files, can I tag files in the order I want and then uudecode them? * Alan Edmonds (alan@ernest.itg.ti.com): I save all of the items into a single folder, order not important (yet). Bring up elm on the single folder. Go to the options screen and select "Sort by Subject." Go back to the main screen. All of the items are (usually) in the proper order. I can then tag related messages and save them (in order) to another folder. I then run 'uucat new_folder | uudecode' to decode the pieces. Works great. I can go back to the original folder if something gets messed up. I don't have to trim the headers out of each part (uucat does this), and elm figures out the order for me. (Ask Alan Edmonds for uucat source.) * Steve Faiwiszewski (stevef@bony1.bony.com): UUdecode expects to decode a single uuencoded file. It knows nothing about multiple parts, and certainly has no knowledge of the correct sequencing. Here's what I do: Typically, I receive a multipart uuencoded file with the subject line of each msg containing the part number, so I can get the parts ordered properly by telling Elm to sort by Msg Subject. I then save all the parts to a folder, and run it through this program I found a long time ago, called unpack (source follows). The neat thing about this program, is that you can append many uuencoded files to the same folder, and unpack will do the right thing - as long as all the parts are ordered correctly, and the "begin" line of each part 1 contains a unique file name. Invoke it like this: "unpack < foldername" I guess tagging and piping should work with it too. (Ask Steve Faiwiszewski for unpack source.) 2.14 Is there any way to bounce all the tagged messages, i.e. not having to bounce every message one by one? Chip Rosenthal (chip@chinacat.unicom.com): Save the following to a script in your personal bin directory, say `bounce': : use /bin/sh : ${ELMSTATE?} ${1?} sed -n -e 's/^S//p' $ELMSTATE | while read mssgno ; do echo "Bouncing message $mssgno to $@ . . ." readmsg -a $mssgno | rmail $@ done When you run: !bounce addr ... then all of the tagged messages will be bounced to the indicated address(es). If no messages are tagged, then the currently selected message will be bounced. 2.15 Does ELM have MIME (metamail) support? MIME allows for sending and receiving of Messages compliant to the Multipurpose Internet Mail Extension (RFC 1341). MIME provides a way to attach binary, graphic, audio, video, postscript and other files. MIME doesn't necessarily need graphics capabilities on your display, but its useful. If you have intalled Nathaniel Borenstein's metamail package for displaying MIME messages, elm can make use of it. If you didn't have metamail installed you might want to obtain a copy of it. The most recent version is on thumper.bellcore.com [128.96.41.1]. Compiling of elm even with MIME support enabled would not depend on the metamail package. But you would not be able to use nearly all of the MIME features as long as you don't have metamail installed. Metamail with its companion programs (mmencode) must be installed somewhere in the search path, usually /usr/local/bin. 2.16 How not to include headers in outward bound mail? Problem: all outward bound mail still includes the following lines, even if I have the "noheader = ON" line in my .elmrc: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 67 Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): "noheader = ON" means when the message is copied into the buffer for a reply or forward. The "X-Mailer:" header is controlled at Configure time. There is a compile time option to produce or not produce it. The three "Content-*" headers are always going to be produced by 2.4. 2.17 Is it possible to save mail messages without the headers? * Chip Rosenthal (chip@chinacat.unicom.com): Use: !readmsg -n >filename If you want to save a few keystrokes, you can encapsulate this in a shell script to go in your personal bin directory. * Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Note that some of the newer features of readmsg are only available in later 2.4 releases 2.18 How do I upgrade my ELM aliases from 2.3 to 2.4PL21 ? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): All I did, was make sure 2.4 as installed, and then had each user run newalias and I ran newalias -g. The aliases.text file is upwards compatible. The old newalias converted aliases.text to aliases.data and aliases.hash the 2.4 newalias converts aliases.text to aliases, aliases.dir and aliases.pag. If you don't have those three new files, you didn't install 2.4 correctly and are still running 2.3's newalias. 2.19 Elm seems to ignore HOME environment variable. Why? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): This is a feature. Elm ignores $HOME, so that when su'd you read the right mail file. Its a choice of one or the other and we chose to allow su over $HOME. 2.20 Sometimes Elm (PL < 21) seems to join two messages in one. Why? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Early versions of Elm 2.4 had a problem with messages with bad content length headers. I'd update to a more recent version when 21 comes out in a bit. Compiler's Note: now 21 is out. I chose to report this Question as it is so a strange behaviour (mail still reads the mailbox correctly) a person can get mad about it :) 2.21 On SCO Xenix, all mail is from user anonymous. Why? From Elm README: On SCO Xenix, if you are all mail is from user anonymous, this is because the mail delivery agent should be /usr/lib/mail/execmail instead of /usr/bin/rmail or /bin/rmail. 2.22 Elm doesn't work on Next. Why? The complete NeXT document by anderson@macc.wisc.edu is available via anon ftp from: yak.macc.wisc.edu [144.92.30.18] and via e-mail from me (serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it) 2.23 Compiling with Microsoft UNIX C Compilers won't work. Why? Thomas Bullinger (mrbulli@btoy1.UUCP): On many systems with the Microsoft UNIX C Compilers (such as SCO), compiling with optimization breaks the code. One symptom is that aliases do not work. On those machines do not compile any of Elm with optimizations. To accomplish that, set all occurences of "OPTIMZE" in the makefiles to "-Od" - then it works. 2.24 Various problems on Unix 286. From Elm README: On some systems, especially those based on the AT&T Port to 286's the -O flag of the compiler produces improper code causing segmentation violations. If this happens, recompile the code without the -O flag. This has been seen with Microport SysV/AT type systems. The Configuration script has been known to exceed the default stack size in Unix 286 sh's. If Configure does not run correctly on this type of machine increase the stack size and rerun it. On Microport SysV/AT machines, Configure might run correctly under ksh. Obtain ksh from Microport (available to current version owners without additional charge) and rerun Configure using it. Also on Microport SysV/AT Machines, the C compiler produces improper code for one of the arithmetic calls. To fix this problem it is necessary to reduce the complexity of the statement, as reported by one of our testers here is the symptom and his patch. Being this is a compiler bug on only one system, we make the information available, but not incorporate it in the main release. Note, this may effect other areas of Elm, and in the future, Microport may even fix this problem. [Read the README file for the patches] 2.25 Configure won't run on HP-UX. Why? From Elm README: The Configuration script has been known to exercise an old bug on HP-UX's version of /bin/sh. This shows up as part of the variable setting section showing up on your screen, and configure aborting on errors. If this happens, try using ksh instead of sh as in: ksh Configure this will usually solve the problem. 2.26 Configure won't run on SCO XENIX 2.2.1. Why? Keith Brazington (keith@g4lzv.co.uk): The solution is simple, up the stack size for /bin/sh. I used # mv /bin/sh /bin/sh.old # cp /bin/sh.old /bin/sh # fixhdr -F 8000 /bin/sh This may seem a bit over the top, but I put it back after! 2.27 Will Elm work on SGI Indigo? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Well, I had no problems at all configuring and running Elm on my SGI Iris under 4.0.5. The biggie for SGI is to say Elm is a non ansi application, so you need to list -cckr as an additional compilation flag. I took all the defaults from configure and it ran just fine. 2.28 I have problems compiling elm2.4 on HP/Apollo Gordon D. Berkley (gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com): As of ELM2.4pl17, The system compiles cleanly (?) for Apollo. This patch level includes many "fixes" that I submitted to ensure this. There *are* many compilor warnings, but they can safely be ignored. I would suggest discarding any config.sh from a previous Configure, though, as this will cause the corrections to NOT work. 2.29 I have problems compiling elm2.4 on IBM AIX * Steve Adams (adams@spss.com): >I am trying to compile the latest and greatest version of ELM on my >RS/6000 running 3.2.? (exact level unclear). I received the following >error messages about setgid being redefined: > >"init.c", line 128.16: 1506-132 (S) Function getgid cannot be >redeclared. >"init.c", line 128.26: 1506-132 (S) Function getuid cannot be >redeclared. You can get around the problem defining -U__STR__ during 'Configure' It will be fixed in PL22. * From the monthly posting: This version of Elm 2.4 should not require any changes to the configure run to link under AIX 3.2 or newer. On IBM RISC 6000 AIX, prior to 3.2, you might get string function errors on the compile. The solution is to do the following: Look at /usr/lpp/bos/bsdsport. It tells you to add following lines to /etc/xlc.cfg: * BSD 4.3 c compiler stanza bsdcc: use = DEFLT crt = /lib/crt0.o mcrt = /lib/mcrt0.o gcrt = /lib/gcrt0.o libraries = -lbsd, -lc proflibs = -L/lib/profiled,-L/usr/lib/profiled options = -H512,-T512, -qlanglvl=extended, -qnoro, -D_BSD, -D_NONSTD_TYPES, -D_NO And then link bsdcc to xlc and use bsdcc instead of cc. In addition, Elm should be linked with the curses lib and not termcap lib if /etc/termcap is not there. (You can always copy the termcap database to etc (or make a symlink)). 2.30 Elm sends 'empty mail' on 386BSD: why? * From the monthly posting: On 386bsd, the shell that is shipped with the system, ash, does not work for sending messages within Elm. Mail messages have headers only and no body. Replacing the shell with bash (from GNU) seems to solve the problem. The bash shell is in the 'etc' distribution of 386BSD. * Another solution if you can't get a fixed shell is to change line 520 in mailmsg2.c to: sprintf(very_long_buffer,"( (%s %s %s < %s ; %s %s) & )", mailer, mailerflags, expanded_to, whole_msg_file, remove_cmd, whole_msg_file); 2.31 Why can't I get SGI to work for non ROOT? From the monthly posting: SGI, at 3.3, doesn't have vfork, but instead a stub that does not work. Make sure vfork is undef in the configuration. 2.32 I have problems p)rinting messages in 2.4PL20 When I try and print a message, I get "readmsg: Cannot find start of selected message". Why? Chip Rosenthal (chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM): Please take a look at the From_ line of the message you are trying to print. I'm going to guess that it has a complex address, maybe with some quoting or special characters, or maybe a strange date syntax. The utilities in the current Elm release (including `readmsg') use very simpleminded routines to crack the From_ lines. Some headers that Elm handles fine confuse these utilities. One of the larger changes in the next Elm update will be moving all of the From_ and ~Date: processing out of the main Elm code and into the library, so the utilities (including `readmsg') will use the same algorithms as Elm. If you look at the From_ line and it doesn't seem particularly unusual, feel free to drop me a line. Most of the changes to readmsg and Elm printing came from my hands, and I'm working on the aforementioned changes too. If there is something else broke in there, I'd be glad to look at it. 2.33 Elm2.4 PL20 - 'x' key causes segmentation violation Nigel Metheringham (nigelm@ohm.york.ac.uk): in the file src/exitprog.c, there is a line char *msg, answer; replace it with char msg[SLEN], answer; 2.34 readmsg:illegal option -- I. Why? Chip Rosenthal (chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM): It means you installed an updated `elm' binary but continue to use an old version of `readmsg'. 2.35 Forms don't work. Why? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): If you have `forms = ON' in elmrc, Forms is there, but the menu items to make a form require that user level be set off beginner. (anything but 0 (beginner)) 2.36 ELM does not recognize VMS mail. Why? * This is fixed in Pl22. * Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Looks to me like you found a bug in Elm's quote parsing routines. It just needs to be looked into. Reported from: Steen Hammerum (kel2sh@uts.uni-c.dk) 2.37 Huge headers cause Memory Fault. Why? Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM): Any part of Elm at the 2.x level will abort if given a header line that is too long. It uses fixed length buffers, and at some point they overflow, and none too gracefully. 3.x will support dynamic strings to solve this problem. 2.38 Can I use elm for posting and replying to news? * Andreas Spiegl (spiegl@cs.utexas.edu): In order to set things up so elm is your mailer when you respond r or R to a news article in rn or trn, define an environment variable RNINIT that points to an initialization file for rn/trn. E.g. .rnrc Then put the following line in this file (.rnrc): -EMAILPOSTER="elm -i %h -s \"Re: %S\" %t" This is from now on telling rn to start elm with the appropriate parameters whenever you reply to an article and works great. But: --> This is not for followup postings on the usenet! <-- If you want to use elm in order to post article, you'd need a line with -ENEWSPOSTER instead of -EMAILPOSTER. Then you would tell elm (once it was evoked by rn/trn) that you want to send this to newsgroupname-with-dashes-instead-of-dots@cs.utexas.edu, for example use "comp-mail-misc@cs.utexas.edu". This will post your email message to the usenet. This is not very convenient though, as you have to convert the address manually. Unless you write a nice script for it, of course. Be sure to send me a copy if you do. :-) * Mike O'Connor (mjo@iao.ford.com): Of course, the DEC gateway allows one to gateway email to Usenet with email addresses of the following format: comp.mail.misc.usenet@decwrl.dec.com and has the additional advantage that they carry a LOT of the regional newsgroups. I still think piping it to sendmail with a macro for R is the way to go. This allows you to use the mailer of your choice, be it elm or pine or Berkeley Mail or Z-Mail or whatever. This gets it into your /usr/spool)/mail or /usr/mail or /var/mail or wherever. 2.39 Is there an Elm for DOS? If yes, where? Mike O'Connor (mjo@msen.com): There is a package called PC-Elm that's an imitation of Elm (i.e. it didn't come from Elm's source tree). It's available for anonymous FTP from oak.oakland.edu:/pub/msdos/ka9q-tcpip/, but it's supposed to interoperate with UUPC and possibly other common PC UUCP mailers. 3.0 Bugs list This list is included for completeness in the ftp version only. please, ftp to ghost.dsi.unimi.it as stated at the beginning of this FAQ to get it. You can get it via a mail server,too: Syd Weiunstein (syd@DSI.COM): The script I use to get it is: smail elmbugs@ohm.york.ac.uk <<\! Subject: command @SH elmbugs elm@dsi.com ! 4.0 Archivers This is the list of Internet and UUCP sites distributing the latest version of Elm, from the Elm monthly posting. 4.0.1 The following sites have agreed to make Elm available via anonymous ftp. Site Contact In the US/Canada: wuarchive.wustl.edu David J. Camp, david@wubios.WUstl.EDU (128.252.135.4) /mirrors/elm ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9, 192.48.96.9) /networking/mail/elm In Europe: ftp.cs.ruu.nl Edwin Kremer, edwin@cs.ruu.nl (131.211.80.17) /pub/ELM-2.4 ftp.th-darmstadt.de ftpadmin@ftp.th-darmstadt.de (130.83.55.75) /pub/networking/mail/elm In the UK: uk.ac.soton.ecs T.Chown@ecs.soton.ac.uk (bitnet) (152.78.64.201) T.Chown@uk.ac.soton.ecs (JANET) ftp.demon.co.uk Cliff Stanford, cliff@demon.co.uk (158.152.1.65) /pub/unix/mail/elm In Australia: ftp.adelaide.edu.au Mark Prior, mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au (129.127.40.3) /pub/mailers In Taiwan: NCTUCCCA.edu.tw Huang, Chih-Hsien hch@NCTUCCCA.edu.tw (140.111.3.21) /packages/mail/elm 4.0.2 The following sites have agreed to make Elm available via anonymous uucp: Site Contact uunet Elm is /networking/mail/elm dsinc Syd Weinstein syd@dsi.com, dsinc!syd note: anon uucp info changed 12/16/91 For further info, send an e-mail message to archive-server@dsi.com stating: send anon how-to dir stanton Steven P. Donegan donegan@stanton.cts.com, stanton!donegan 714-894-2246 uucp - nuucp no word Elm is /u/public/elm2.3.tar.Z ---------------------- *** END of Elm FAQ *** This file has not been truncated -- ------------------------------------------ Piero Serini ----------- Computer Science Dept. E-mail: serini@ghost.dsi.unimi.it Univ. Statale - Milano - ITALY or: piero@strider.st.dsi.unimi.it --------------- Public Key available via finger(1) ---------------- .