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the eighth climate I asked

what is that, or where

or when & how

 

to get out from under it

or in from outside of it

if that’s

 

what’s desired or needed and who

is to say it is so or isn’t so

I asked you

 

said we may examine briefly

the order of reality I designate as

mundus imaginalis

 

then we will examine the organ

that perceives this reality, namely

cognitive imagination

 

a topography of interworlds

you can easily get lost in.

Oh, no

 

I said if we are in the interworld

how could we get lost? We’re

in it.

 

You throw the word utopian

at me and it missed me

only interstitially.

 

It is a strange thing or

a decisive example

you said

 

I said make up your mind

if it is both

find the third term.